Houston Matters' Maggie Martin recently interviewed Ruth Kravetz, co-founder of Community Voices for Public Education, and Zeph Capo, President of the Houston Federation of Teachers. They discussed topics including the Houston ISD controversial performance bonus system and high-stakes testing.

During the interview, Kravetz shared that "Some people foolishly think high-stakes testing is a civil right...Tests do not feed children."

Listen to this interview as well as the interview with Houston Chronicle Education reporter Ericka Mellon here.